Showing posts with label niacin. Show all posts
Showing posts with label niacin. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 1, 2023

What are the risk with "Dilution" for Passing Urine Drug Test

What is a Dilution  method for urine drug test?

A urine drug test is a common way for employees, healthcare providers, and law enforcement agencies to detect the presence of drugs in an individuals system. One method used to try and pass a urine drug test is through dilution.  In regards to drug test, " Dilution " means  - the method to pass a urine drug screen by ingesting  large amounts of liquids to Dilute your bladder and thus dilute your metabolite levels below the cut off point. 
 

How Dilution methods work  

  The liquid need only be water but best if it is also a diuretic. Diuretics help the body get rid of excess fluid, mainly water and sodium.When diuretics stimulate kidneys to flush away sodium the body also flushes away water. This can be done by using herbal items such as dandelion root, horsetail, celery seed, green or black teas or coffee.

 By drinking large amounts of fluids, individuals aim to lower the concentration of drug metabolites in their urine sample, making it more difficult to detect. 

 What makes Dilution Risky ? 

The truth about dilution for drug testing is that it does not detoxify the body but only dilutes the urine with water. Substances like certo,  ( which require large amounts of  WATER)  and expensive detox drinks do not "detoxify" the body either are they diuretics. After consuming these the body's urine is diluted with water for a relatively short window. This creates a clear urine sample which is actually not unnatural as most drink extra prior to test but  promoters of the dilution method will say to just take B vitamins for color and creatine supplements.  However your still diluting it and if does add any color it will be a suspicious fake neon yellow.  Also Color is not a qualifying parameter so why mess with it ?  As for creatine supplements - this is another sweet spot factor in timing of consumption to get it the creatine to convert to creatinine as shown in study  "  The effects of creatine ingestion on urinary creatine concentration: Does supplementation mask heavy dilution? ". Proper use of creatine for the  purpose of suplementing during dilution requires 20 grams to be hydrated in acid or orange juice for 3 days then consumed prior to testing  so that all the cratine is converted to creatinine . " Detox" rinks like q carbo are mostly herbal tea and contain VERY little insignificant amount of creatine considering your still DILUTING IT. 

 

The Trick is that you have to ingest enough fluids to dilute your urine and metabolite levels to below threshold but NOT to point that your creatinine and Specific gravity (urine density), which is what results in a DILUTED result. Dilution results are also effected by sex and weight as seen in this study "Creatinine excretion in consecutive urine samples after controlled ingestion of water" .  Dilution is not permanent, as you urinate you remove water and body returns to previous levels. You have to hit the sweet spot during a short window, without coming up diluted.  

Urine drug screens are performed by measuring amounts of drug metabolites and if they fall over a threshold your deemed POSITIVE and if under your negative.  However Lab drug tests have two parts, including the Specimen validity testing (SVT). SVT is done to check for substitution or a sample that is not characteristic of human urine.

 The Validation screen which is performed prior to or simultaneously with drug screen. Specimen validity testing (SVT) is performed on a urine drug screen specimen to detect substances, adulteration, or dilution ( result from creatinine and specific gravity levels being crashed or under limits).

  The validation screen will also look at non human items such as sanitizing agents used in liquid urine or masking agents (adulteration). Adulteration involves adding chemicals to destroy the drug metabolite. 

 WHEN SELF TESTING  THEY DO NOT LOOK AT SPECIFIC GRAVITY AND COULD GIVE A FALSE NEGATIVE   YOU WANT TO TEST SG TO VERIFY IF OUR TOO DILUTED SO YOU KNOW YOUR WINDOW BASED ON FLUID INTAKE OVER TIME
 Detoxing 
 
All drugs will be gone from urine in 3-5 days except repeated use of THC as it builds up and stores in body fat and liver.  However if you are a repeat user of THC and if your non active heavy body mass person you may not have the 1-2 month needed.
 
Adulteration 

Not even going to bother as this is a major part of the SVT 
 
 

Synthetic Urine Substitution  

This is the most effective method for passing a urine drug test every single time providing your not on observed probation  or (depending on the labs validation screen parameters ) a liquid urine as they all contain a sanitizing agent to keep them shelf stable.  Powdered synthetic urine avoid this risk but requires pre mixing which is not a major issue. I have personally done 2 pre employment and 5 randoms using synthetic and i can say once you do it and get over the jitters you feel bullet proof from then on.
 
 
"But im too scared ill get caught " 
 
 The only concern with synthetic is getting the urine in the cup at temperature.  
Simply practice carrying with water and warming pads to get rid of being nervous.

To conclude

  basically dilution is a 50 50 crap shoot with success based on your use level, amount of liquid consumed and timing it before level return to measurable levels so as to not OVER DILUTE. IF your going to attempt it I suggest you practice by doing said method and  using  a self pre test with some cheap test sticks.   





Wednesday, November 3, 2021

Truth about dilution for urine test- ( certo , niacin , detox drinks )

 Whats the truth about Dilution for drug test ?

Do things like certo , Niacin or expensive "Detox Drinks" actually "Detox " you ? 


Methods using products like Certo, or detox drinks are essentially just adding them to a standard dilution agent like water. In the past, before synthetic urine and the internet, people used to rely on goldenseal tea for flushing. Therefore, there is no need to rely on gimmicky drinks that cost $40 and tell you to drink a gallon of water. It's important to recognize that it's the water that is diluting your urine after consuming pectin Certo, niacin, or detox drinks. Similarly, detox drinks instruct you to drink them along with multiple bottles of water, urinate a few times while continuing to drink more water before the test.

Some might wonder about the color of the urine, but in a urine test, the color is not a significant factor, and most people tend to hydrate prior to the test so they can produce urine and leave quickly. Concerning the possibility of over-hydrating and receiving a negative result due to low levels of creatinine and specific gravity (urine density), the drink itself doesn't add anything to counteract that. If you're diluting your urine by hydrating excessively, everything, including drug metabolites, color and creatinine will be diluted.

What actually happens is that you dilute your urine with water, and approximately an hour after you stop drinking excessive amounts of water, your body regulates itself and expels the excess water through urine, returning your levels to their true concentrations. This process doesn't "detox" your body as commonly claimed by those selling drinks or promoting online methods. In simple terms, the reason some people pass a urine test using these drinks and methods is often due to luck.

Alternatively, they might not have had drugs in their system to begin with, which is common for one-time users or occasional THC users who become paranoid and believe the drug will stay in their system indefinitely. However, a single use of THC typically clears from the body within three days, just like most other drugs. Many people who claim to have "passed" using these products are often one-time THC users who panicked without knowing the drug's elimination time frame. It's advisable to use a simple, inexpensive self-test urine stick before resorting to panic buying these drinks.

A laboratory drug test consists of two parts. The first part is the Validity Screen, which checks for levels of creatinine (not creatine) and specific gravity, among other factors that indicate potential sample masking or tampering. If you flush and dilute your urine but the creatinine and specific gravity levels are not significantly altered, then the urine is not considered diluted. Furthermore, if your metabolite levels are below the testing threshold, you will receive a negative result and pass the test.

However, if the specific gravity (urine density) and creatinine levels are too low, it indicates that you have consumed substances to alter your urine, which raises suspicion. Fortunately, they won't fail you outright, and you will have the opportunity to try the test again, although it may appear suspicious.

To summarize, if dilution is your only option, all you need is a $5.00 box of detox tea from any store and some inexpensive self-test sticks. Avoid self-testing when you are excessively hydrated as it may produce false negative results, as urine density validation is not performed. Remember, even a faint line on the test is considered negative for THC.

What works every single time is substituting your urine with synthetic urine. The only concern is ensuring that the synthetic urine is at the correct temperature when you submit it, but this can be easily managed with a proper container. Synthetic urine has been available for a long time, and it is a reliable method. Some may perceive it as riskier, but that is not accurate. Just practice carrying it to ensure you


What does work every single time is Synthetic urine substitution .  Your only concern is getting it in the cup at temp which is easy peezy with a proper container. Synthetic urine has been around a long time and its easy to beat. Most think it riskier but that is false.  Just practice carrying it so you know how to keep it at temp and your golden . 

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Thursday, May 25, 2017

The Niacin drug test Myth exposed

 

 

 

 

 

The Niacin drug test Myth


Niacin, also known as vitamin B3, is often suggested as a supplement that may impact drug detoxification, particularly for substances like marijuana. However, it's important to note that there is limited scientific evidence supporting the idea that niacin significantly aids in the detoxification of drugs.

Some individuals believe that niacin can help cleanse the body of drugs by promoting sweating and increasing the metabolism. The idea is that increased metabolism and sweating may help eliminate drug metabolites from the body more rapidly.

The idea that niacin can help pass a drug test likely stems from the fact that it can cause a flushing sensation in the skin. This flushing is caused by the dilation of blood vessels, which can result in a red, itchy rash. Some people believe that this flushing can help rid the body of toxins, including drug metabolites, and thereby help them pass a drug test.

Some Claim it stops the body from releasing fat so taking it allows you to be dirty and keep THC from showing positive  

 Niacin does not directly stop the body from releasing fat. In fact, niacin plays a role in the metabolism of fats, carbohydrates, and proteins by aiding in the conversion of these nutrients into usable energy. It helps break down fats and fatty acids, allowing the body to utilize them for energy production.


However, it's important to note that while niacin supports the metabolic processes involved in fat utilization, it does not directly inhibit or block the body from releasing fat. The release of fat from fat cells is primarily regulated by hormonal signals and energy demands in the body.


There is no scientific evidence to support this belief. Drug metabolites are primarily eliminated from the body through the kidneys and excreted in urine. While niacin may cause a flushing sensation, it does not have any effect on the kidneys or the excretion of drug metabolites.

Moreover, taking high doses of niacin can be dangerous and cause a range of side effects, including liver damage, gastrointestinal problems, and skin rash. In rare cases, high doses of niacin can also lead to a condition called niacin toxicity, which can cause liver failure, jaundice, and even death. 

Niacin can be toxic when used to "beat" drug test

However, it's crucial to be aware of the potential risks and limitations:

  1. Limited scientific evidence: There is a lack of robust scientific studies supporting the effectiveness of niacin for drug detoxification. Claims about its benefits often come from anecdotal reports rather than controlled, peer-reviewed research.

  2. Side effects: Niacin can cause side effects, including flushing, itching, and nausea, especially in high doses. These side effects may be uncomfortable and can potentially pose health risks, such as liver damage in extreme cases.

  3. Incomplete detoxification: Niacin does not target specific drug metabolites directly. While it may increase metabolic processes, it does not guarantee the elimination of all drug residues from the body.

  4. Individual variations: The effectiveness of niacin may vary among individuals, and factors like body weight, metabolism, and overall health can influence its impact.

  5. False sense of security: Relying solely on niacin for drug detoxification may give a false sense of security. It's essential to consider other factors, such as time since drug use, hydration, and overall health.

In conclusion, niacin is a vitamin that is essential for human health, but it cannot be used to pass a urine drug test. If you need to pass a drug test, the best approach is to abstain from drug use for a sufficient period of time before the test.

 

allow me to post just one example of a niacin believer and what they did using it . 

 

THE NIACIN PROTOCOL 
  taken from various weed forums (  separate quotes from various users )
 "...I took NIACIN 250mg. ( high dose) ...i got 2 gallons of water and gator aid "

"...and i drank about 150 ounces of water a day. "  "...pee at least 3 times before the test"
perfect example of ignorant mindset

"... i am going to take five niacin(100 mg a pilL), with lots of water, and then i am going to take niacin 4 days before the test, (500 mg). and then dilute with alot of water, the day of the test. I am doing this because, i want to know if niacin works for real. if the niacin does not work, then the dilution method will not bring the levels down past the threshold, and ill fail. if the niacin works, then ill pass obviously.

See if it worked then you wouldn't need to use it with tons of fluids which is just dilution this is the same nonsense as certo which is always also used with tons of water .

 

Thursday, May 4, 2017

Certo, What it is and isnt going to do for a drug test


Certo, What it is and isnt going to do for a drug test 

This one isnt a typical flush myth this one uses a concept of absorbing toxins  with fruit fiber




It is time to put this nonsense about certo being a proven way to pass a urine drug screen to rest .

Certo or Sure Jel is essentially the same as Beni Fiber. They all contain fruit pectin, which is a soluble dietary fiber primarily derived from apples. When consumed, pectin binds to cholesterol in the digestive tract and slows down the absorption of glucose by trapping carbohydrates.

Research has shown that pectin can lower blood cholesterol levels. This effect is believed to be due to increased viscosity in the intestinal tract, which reduces the absorption of cholesterol from bile or food. In the large intestine and colon, pectin is broken down by microorganisms, releasing short-chain fatty acids. This property of trapping fats makes pectin potentially beneficial for capturing THC, as THC is bound to fats. However, this trapping effect would only apply to recently ingested substances and not those stored in body fat, similar to how charcoal detox only targets substances in the stomach.

In the body, THC is primarily metabolized to 11-OH-THC, which remains psychoactive. It is then further oxidized to 11-nor-9-carboxy-THC (THC-COOH). The liver plays a significant role in this metabolism, involving cytochrome P450 enzymes, particularly CYP2C9, CYP2C19, and CYP3A4.

Over 55% of THC is excreted through feces, while 20% is eliminated in urine. The primary metabolite found in urine is the ester of glucuronic acid and THC-COOH, along with free THC-COOH. In feces, 11-OH-THC is predominantly detected. THC binds to cannabinoid receptors located in various parts of the body, including the brain, heart, and liver.


The notion that certo or pectin can effectively trap THC in the body is baseless since they can only capture substances present in the stomach or intestine. While pectin can help lower cholesterol and triglyceride levels, regular consumption of soluble fiber products may slightly reduce the absorption of a small amount of THC from the intestine into the system. However, there is limited impact on THC as it travels from the lungs to the liver and then to the small intestine. Approximately 25% of THC remains unexcreted, leading to its storage in fat reserves, primarily liver fat.

Once again, the theory surrounding certo is unsubstantiated. Lowering THC storage in the body can also be achieved through a low-fat diet and cardiovascular exercise. Claims made by uninformed individuals about passing drug tests with certo or pectin lack evidence and proof. The perceived effectiveness is likely due to the dilution effect caused by consuming large amounts of water along with these substances.

If someone wishes to scientifically demonstrate that certo leads to a successful drug test result, they need to conduct an experiment involving daily smoking for a month, consuming certo with a cup of water rather than a gallon, and obtaining mass spectrometry analysis in a laboratory instead of relying on inexpensive reagent strips from a dollar store.

When THC is consumed infrequently or on a one-time basis, it typically remains in the system for only a few days, similar to other drugs. Regular use is necessary for THC to accumulate in fat stores. Therefore, if one desires to "detox" THC, the most effective methods involve engaging in cardio exercises and fasting. Drinks or fruit pectin cannot eliminate THC. The pectin method is often associated with consuming a significant amount of fluids, which is referred to as dilution.

If you are a frequent THC user and have not undergone a month-long detox through cardio exercises and fasting you might consider using synthetic urine . 
Unlike consuming excessive amounts of water or other substances, powdered synthetic urine is always a sure deal can also be a viable option for random drug tests. Dont worry it is undetectable all you have to do is carry properly to get it in the cup at temp . Here are carrying tips to make that stress free.