Creatine used in Dilution for drug testing how its being done wrong.

Creatine used in Dilution  for drug testing how its being used wrong.  

 Dilution is ...

Dilution refers to the process of decreasing the concentration of a urine sample by consuming excessive fluids with the intention of manipulating a negative outcome on a drug test. Another approach is consuming substances like diuretics (e.g., coffee, cranberry juice) that increase urine output.However, it's important to note that urine drug tests have measures in place to detect dilution attempts. 

Laboratories typically analyze multiple parameters in the urine, including creatinine levels, specific gravity, and pH, to assess the sample's validity. Diluted urine often has low creatinine levels and a lower specific gravity compared to normal urine, indicating that it has been tampered with.

laboratories routinely analyze samples for creatinine and specific gravity levels. Creatinine is a waste product generated by muscles and serves as a measure of urine concentration. Specific gravity, on the other hand, measures the ratio of water to other substances in urine and is another indicator of concentration. Typical creatinine levels in urine range between 20 and 400 mg/dL, while normal specific gravity falls between 1.002 and 1.030. Specimens with a creatinine level above 2 mg/dL or below 20 g/dL, and a specific gravity lower than 1.001 or 1.003, are considered diluted.

If a test is determined to be a negative-dilute result, it is highly likely that an employer will request a second test regardless of the underlying reason. However, in some cases, employers may accept a doctor's note stating that an individual has a shy bladder, which requires consuming large amounts of water to produce a urine specimen, as a valid explanation for a dilute test.

The outcomes of a positive dilute test are considered equivalent to any other positive test. The presence of drugs is detected, and the consequences remain the same.

 In drug testing scenarios, dilution is generally considered an adulteration method and is not a reliable way to pass a drug test. Laboratories are aware of these techniques and have established protocols to detect diluted samples. A negative dilute result occurs when a urine specimen tests Negative  for a particular drug metabolite while also having a crashed specific gravity and creatinine level.

 If a diluted sample is identified, it may be deemed invalid, and further testing or consequences may be implemented, such as retesting or considering it a positive result.

 

Methods of Dilution

 Various items are inevitably added to a standard dilution of consuming a liter a hour of some sports drink and diuretics. most notably would be creatine, certo or pectin , and some times you hear people saying to use charcoal. People cant help but think they are improving things regardless if they have any proof to the claim .

adding random things are pointless for one , your still diluting with tons of fluids.

If items like pectin were so important then why don't they drink it with a cup of water instead of a gallon ?  well besides that fact it would turn to a glob in their stomach .  Pectin is just fruit fiber and it may help you create a bowel movement its not releasing THC from body fat. Same goes for charcoal, which is consumed by mouth into the stomach where it is usually used to aid in poisoning JUST CONSUMED AND STILL IN THE STOMACH.  


consuming creatine will not give you extra creatinine levels

How Creatine Works

 Creatine is a substance found naturally in muscle cells. It helps your muscles produce energy during heavy lifting or high intensity exercise.

 Taking creatine as a supplement is very popular among athletes and bodybuilders. They use it to gain muscle, enhance strength, and improve exercise performance

About half of your body’s creatine stores come from the food you eat — especially red meat and seafood — and the rest is made in your liver and kidneys from amino acids. About 95% of the body’s creatine is stored in the muscles, mainly in the form of phosphocreatine. The other 5% is found in the brain and testes .

Creatine monohydrate absorption is close to 100% [27], and when 2 g of Cr is consumed in an aqueous solution, it reaches peak plasma concentration in approximately 1 h. 

 
During exertion, your muscles convert the stored creatine molecules into energy, which assists in muscle contraction. After being used for energy, creatine is broken down into creatinine, which re-enters the bloodstream en route to the kidneys. 

 
 When you supplement, you increase your stores of phosphocreatine. This is a form of stored energy in the cells. It helps your body produce more of a high energy molecule called ATP.

Most of the creatine in the body is stored as phosphocreatine (66%), while the remaining portion exists as free creatine (33%). On average, the total creatine pool (phosphocreatine + free creatine) in the muscles of a normal-sized person is around 120 grams. Each day, about 1 to 2% (2-3 grams) of the total creatine pool is broken down and converted into creatinine within the muscles. The creatinine is then excreted in the urine.

The body has the capacity to store up to 160 grams of creatine. Therefore, one can think of the normal creatine content in the muscles (approximately 120 grams) as a gas tank that is about 75% full. Scientific studies consistently report that dietary supplementation of creatine can increase muscle creatine and phosphocreatine content by 10-40%. Consequently, supplementing with creatine allows individuals to fill up their creatine storage tank to about 150-160 grams (25-30%). However, people may respond differently to creatine supplementation, with some experiencing increases in muscle creatine content as little as 5-15%, while others may see an increase of 15-40%.

TYPES OF CREATINE 

Creatine monohydrate and creatine ester are two forms of creatine, a popular supplement known for its potential to enhance athletic performance. Let's delve into the differences in absorption and their potential impact on creatinine levels: 

1. Creatine Monohydrate: 

• Absorption: Creatine monohydrate is well-researched and has been shown to be efficiently absorbed by the body. It is the most studied and commonly used form of creatine. 

• Creatinine Levels: Creatinine is a byproduct of creatine metabolism. While creatine monohydrate supplementation may lead to a slight increase in creatinine levels, this is generally considered normal and not indicative of kidney dysfunction. It's crucial to stay hydrated when using creatine to support kidney function. 

2. Creatine Ester: 

• Absorption: Creatine ester is a form of creatine that has been chemically altered to potentially improve absorption. However, research on creatine ester is limited compared to creatine monohydrate, and some studies suggest that the ester form may not be as effective in increasing muscle creatine levels. 

 it has been found that under normal physiological conditions, creatine ethyl ester is very unstable and is largely converted into creatinine in the gastrointestinal tract, where it is also absorbed. Spillane et al¹³ demonstrate this in an experiment in which serum creatine and creatinine measurements were taken from healthy volunteers who either consumed creatine ethyl ester, creatine monohydrate or a placebo. It was found that serum creatinine levels approximately tripled after the ingestion of creatine ethyl ester, while serum creatine only marginally increased. The ingestion of creatine monohydrate caused serum creatine to increase significantly and only caused a marginal increase in serum creatinine.

Therefore, regardless of the small amount consumed during a dilution method, it does not convert into creatinine but rather gets stored. Additionally, the amount of creatinine in so-called detox drinks like Q Carbo is extremely insignificant. Your body only excretes what it breaks down, which means you need to regularly consume creatine and engage in heavy weight lifting to create the waste material that is creatinine.

 HOWEVER  HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS 

There IS a way you can get  creatinine  not creatine in volume you need during dilution. You will need to prepare it ahead of time. 20 grams of creatinine mono hydrate in orange juice, (this is needed for the acid ) and store at room temp for 3 days. Now you have creatinine that can be rejected and pissed out .  

The effect of creatine ingestion on urinary creatinine concentration: Does supplementation mask a heavy dilution?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4170516/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34559477/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8401986/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2649889/

What does true THC detox mean ?

                YOU CAN NOT DETOX THC WITH PRODUCTS  OR WATER 

 

 

Typically all DETOX questions revolve around removing THC for Urine drug test . All other drug will naturally be gone in 5 days average with some things a little longer  nicotine 10 + days , certain Benzodiazepines can be 3 + weeks.  however repeat use of THC can be much longer based on intake and weight / activity level .

THC, the active compound found in cannabis, is known to be stored in fat cells in the body. When someone consumes cannabis, THC is absorbed into the bloodstream and eventually gets distributed throughout the body, including the fatty tissues. Over time, the THC is gradually released from the fat cells back into the bloodstream, allowing it to be metabolized and eliminated from the body.

Sweating, on the other hand, does not significantly contribute to the removal of THC from the body. While small traces of THC and its metabolites may be excreted in sweat, the concentration is usually quite low and not considered a reliable method for eliminating THC from the body. The primary routes of THC elimination are through urine and feces.

in addition to cardio,  studies have found fasting to be effective at reducing and thus releasing fat and in turn THC stores . 

Lipolysis is the metabolic pathway through which lipid triglycerides are hydrolyzed into a glycerol and free fatty acids. It is used to mobilize stored energy during fasting or exercise, and usually occurs in fat adipocytes. The most important regulatory hormone in lipolysis is insulin; lipolysis can only occur when insulin action falls to low levels, as occurs during fasting.

Imagine your body as a little factory that turns food into energy. When you eat food, your body uses it for energy right away. But sometimes, when you're not eating, like when you're sleeping or taking a break from food, your body needs to find another way to get the energy it needs. That's where fasting comes in.

Fasting is like giving your body a little challenge. When you don't eat for a while, your body doesn't have any new food to use for energy. So, it starts looking for another source of energy, and that's when something special happens.

Your body has a special kind of fat called stored fat. It's like a backup energy supply. When you fast, your body starts to use this stored fat for energy. It breaks down the stored fat into smaller parts called fatty acids. This process is called lipolysis.

Think of lipolysis as a superhero that helps your body burn fat. It takes the big pieces of stored fat and turns them into smaller pieces that your body can use as fuel. These smaller pieces are the fatty acids.

So, when you fast, your body switches to using the stored fat and breaks it down into fatty acids through lipolysis. This helps your body burn fat and gives you the energy you need to keep going, even when you're not eating.

Remember, fasting is like a challenge for your body, and it helps your body use stored fat through lipolysis to get the energy it needs.

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NOW WHAT ABOUT HYDRATION AND  DETOX PRODUCTS

 The concept of "detoxing" is often associated with various health practices and products, including detox teas. However, it's important to understand that the idea of detoxification and flushing out toxins is not scientifically well-supported.


The human body has its built-in detoxification systems, primarily the liver and kidneys, which work continuously to eliminate waste products and toxins from the body. They are highly efficient at their job and do not require any additional assistance from detox teas or similar products.


While some detox teas may contain ingredients that can have diuretic or laxative effects, leading to increased urination or bowel movements, these effects do not necessarily equate to flushing out toxins. Moreover, excessive use of such teas can disrupt the body's natural balance and lead to dehydration or electrolyte imbalances.


It's worth noting that the term "detox" has been marketed and used in a variety of ways, often with exaggerated claims and unsupported scientific evidence. If you're concerned about your health or believe you may have been exposed to harmful substances, it's best to consult with a healthcare professional who can provide appropriate guidance based on your specific situation.

 

SO THATS THAT   IF YOU WANT TO DETOX THC AND HAVE THE TIME   

IF NOT  THEN USE Fake It  SYNTHETIC URINE

 

 

 

 

 

What are the risk with "Dilution" for Passing Urine Drug Test

What is a Dilution  method for urine drug test?

A urine drug test is a common way for employees, healthcare providers, and law enforcement agencies to detect the presence of drugs in an individuals system. One method used to try and pass a urine drug test is through dilution.  In regards to drug test, " Dilution " means  - the method to pass a urine drug screen by ingesting  large amounts of liquids to Dilute your bladder and thus dilute your metabolite levels below the cut off point. 

 

How Dilution methods work  

  The liquid need only be water but best if it is also a diuretic. Diuretics help the body get rid of excess fluid, mainly water and sodium.When diuretics stimulate kidneys to flush away sodium the body also flushes away water. This can be done by using herbal items such as dandelion root, horsetail, celery seed, green or black teas or coffee.

 By drinking large amounts of fluids, individuals aim to lower the concentration of drug metabolites in their urine sample, making it more difficult to detect. 

 What makes Dilution Risky ? 

The truth about dilution for drug testing is that it does not detoxify the body but only dilutes the urine with water. Substances like certo,  ( which require large amounts of  WATER)  and expensive detox drinks do not "detoxify" the body either are they diuretics. After consuming these the body's urine is diluted with water for a relatively short window. This creates a clear urine sample which is actually not unnatural as most drink extra prior to test but  promoters of the dilution method will say to just take B vitamins for color and creatine supplements.  However your still diluting it and if does add any color it will be a suspicious fake neon yellow.  Also Color is not a qualifying parameter so why mess with it ?  As for creatine supplements - this is another sweet spot factor in timing of consumption to get it the creatine to convert to creatinine as shown in study  "  The effects of creatine ingestion on urinary creatine concentration: Does supplementation mask heavy dilution? ". Proper use of creatine for the  purpose of suplementing during dilution requires 20 grams to be hydrated in acid or orange juice for 3 days then consumed prior to testing  so that all the cratine is converted to creatinine . " Detox" rinks like q carbo are mostly herbal tea and contain VERY little insignificant amount of creatine considering your still DILUTING IT. 

 

The Trick is that you have to ingest enough fluids to dilute your urine and metabolite levels to below threshold but NOT to point that your creatinine and Specific gravity (urine density), which is what results in a DILUTED result. Dilution results are also effected by sex and weight as seen in this study "Creatinine excretion in consecutive urine samples after controlled ingestion of water" .  Dilution is not permanent, as you urinate you remove water and body returns to previous levels. You have to hit the sweet spot during a short window, without coming up diluted.  

Urine drug screens are performed by measuring amounts of drug metabolites and if they fall over a threshold your deemed POSITIVE and if under your negative.  However Lab drug tests have two parts, including the Specimen validity testing (SVT). SVT is done to check for substitution or a sample that is not characteristic of human urine.

 The Validation screen which is performed prior to or simultaneously with drug screen. Specimen validity testing (SVT) is performed on a urine drug screen specimen to detect substances, adulteration, or dilution ( result from creatinine and specific gravity levels being crashed or under limits).

  The validation screen will also look at non human items such as sanitizing agents used in liquid urine or masking agents (adulteration). Adulteration involves adding chemicals to destroy the drug metabolite. 

 WHEN SELF TESTING  THEY DO NOT LOOK AT SPECIFIC GRAVITY AND COULD GIVE A FALSE NEGATIVE   YOU WANT TO TEST SG TO VERIFY IF OUR TOO DILUTED SO YOU KNOW YOUR WINDOW BASED ON FLUID INTAKE OVER TIME

 Alternatives to Dilution methods.

 Detoxing 

 

All drugs will be gone from urine in 3-5 days except repeated use of THC as it builds up and stores in body fat and liver.  However if you are a repeat user of THC and if your non active heavy body mass person you may not have the 1-2 month needed.

 

Adulteration 

Not even going to bother as this is a major part of the SVT 

 

 

Synthetic Urine Substitution  

This is the most effective method for passing a urine drug test every single time providing your not on observed probation  or (depending on the labs validation screen parameters ) a liquid urine as they all contain a sanitizing agent to keep them shelf stable.  Powdered synthetic urine avoid this risk but requires pre mixing which is not a major issue. I have personally done 2 pre employment and 5 randoms using synthetic and i can say once you do it and get over the jitters you feel bullet proof from then on.

 

 

"But im too scared ill get caught " 

 

 The only concern with synthetic is getting the urine in the cup at temperature.  

Simply practice carrying with water and warming pads to get rid of being nervous.

To conclude

  basically dilution is a 50 50 crap shoot with success based on your use level, amount of liquid consumed and timing it before level return to measurable levels so as to not OVER DILUTE. IF your going to attempt it I suggest you practice by doing said method and  using  a self pre test with some cheap test sticks.   

Truth about dilution for urine test- ( certo , niacin , detox drinks )

 Whats the truth about Dilution for drug test ?

Do things like certo , Niacin or expensive "Detox Drinks" actually "Detox " you ? 

Methods using products like Certo, or detox drinks are essentially just adding them to a standard dilution agent like water. In the past, before synthetic urine and the internet, people used to rely on goldenseal tea for flushing. Therefore, there is no need to rely on gimmicky drinks that cost $40 and tell you to drink a gallon of water. It's important to recognize that it's the water that is diluting your urine after consuming pectin Certo, niacin, or detox drinks. Similarly, detox drinks instruct you to drink them along with multiple bottles of water, urinate a few times while continuing to drink more water before the test.

Some might wonder about the color of the urine, but in a urine test, the color is not a significant factor, and most people tend to hydrate prior to the test so they can produce urine and leave quickly. Concerning the possibility of over-hydrating and receiving a negative result due to low levels of creatinine and specific gravity (urine density), the drink itself doesn't add anything to counteract that. If you're diluting your urine by hydrating excessively, everything, including drug metabolites, color and creatinine will be diluted.

What actually happens is that you dilute your urine with water, and approximately an hour after you stop drinking excessive amounts of water, your body regulates itself and expels the excess water through urine, returning your levels to their true concentrations. This process doesn't "detox" your body as commonly claimed by those selling drinks or promoting online methods. In simple terms, the reason some people pass a urine test using these drinks and methods is often due to luck.

Alternatively, they might not have had drugs in their system to begin with, which is common for one-time users or occasional THC users who become paranoid and believe the drug will stay in their system indefinitely. However, a single use of THC typically clears from the body within three days, just like most other drugs. Many people who claim to have "passed" using these products are often one-time THC users who panicked without knowing the drug's elimination time frame. It's advisable to use a simple, inexpensive self-test urine stick before resorting to panic buying these drinks.

A laboratory drug test consists of two parts. The first part is the Validity Screen, which checks for levels of creatinine (not creatine) and specific gravity, among other factors that indicate potential sample masking or tampering. If you flush and dilute your urine but the creatinine and specific gravity levels are not significantly altered, then the urine is not considered diluted. Furthermore, if your metabolite levels are below the testing threshold, you will receive a negative result and pass the test.

However, if the specific gravity (urine density) and creatinine levels are too low, it indicates that you have consumed substances to alter your urine, which raises suspicion. Fortunately, they won't fail you outright, and you will have the opportunity to try the test again, although it may appear suspicious.

To summarize, if dilution is your only option, all you need is a $5.00 box of detox tea from any store and some inexpensive self-test sticks. Avoid self-testing when you are excessively hydrated as it may produce false negative results, as urine density validation is not performed. Remember, even a faint line on the test is considered negative for THC.

What works every single time is substituting your urine with synthetic urine. The only concern is ensuring that the synthetic urine is at the correct temperature when you submit it, but this can be easily managed with a proper container. Synthetic urine has been available for a long time, and it is a reliable method. Some may perceive it as riskier, but that is not accurate. Just practice carrying it to ensure you

What does work every single time is Synthetic urine substitution .  Your only concern is getting it in the cup at temp which is easy peezy with a proper container. Synthetic urine has been around a long time and its easy to beat. Most think it riskier but that is false.  Just practice carrying it so you know how to keep it at temp and your golden . 

One Shot Synthetic Urine Kit

Risk associated with Flushing to pass Urine test

Are their risk to flushing to beat a urine drug test?

To be clear flushing is not proper detoxing so when a detox drink is called detox thats not whats really going on .

The flushing strategy involves putting large quantities of liquids into your body so that the  metabolites will be washed out as fast as possible. It is unlikely that you will remove 100% of drug metabolites using this method, but it can be effective in reducing the concentration of drug traces in your sample to below the threshold .

The Office of Drug Enforcement at the Department of Transportation (DOT) asked Dr Edward Cone from the Addiction Research Center (ARC) to investigate how effective the flushing method was. He demonstrated that drinking 1 gallon of water made the gravity of marijuana in the system drop to extremely low level and also that the marijuana test results would be negative.

levels can stay low enough for a negative for a couple hours after the water was drunk but they subsequently returned to positive. The results were the same wither with "cleansing products"  and regular drinking water. With any flushing rather if it's with certo or herbs or some 40 dollar drink you got at GNC or a head shop they all tell you to drink a gallon water afterwards. This is what causes it to dilute levels to pass.

If you are planning on using the flushing method, you will need to drink large volumes of liquids (water and anything else) before the test takes place.

Here's the issues and risk ....

For one flushing too far from a test can easily return to full levels so you have to load up on water pass a first piss containing pre water loading that still contains denser metabolite levels. Then you have to get the next piss submitted before it gets contaminated as levels return because your not  DETOXED but DILUTED. 

Failing from Dilution is a common result of imperfect flushing. Before a sample is drug screened it is VALIDATED . 

Urine Validation screens check  a sample to normal human levels for Creatinine , pH, Specific Gravity and looks for additives Nitrites, Glutaraldehyde , and Oxidants. So although the density of the drug metabolites are crashed so is the Specific Gravity or density (regardless of B vitamins to turn it yellow)  of sample and Creatinine  which has to show to prove its human. Allot of the information on flushing  on the web is pretty dated and was from before validation testing became a regular part of a drug test.   

This is why Passitkit.com doesn't sell the drinks and pills for this reason but produces  custom powdered Synthetic urine kits. The First and probably the only real uric acid synthetic urine . It has never failed a test in 18 years which also shows how reliable their delivery kits for substitution like Urine Trouble synthetic urine kit  and One Shot a temperature metered bottle perfect to pass a random urine test  at any time.   

SAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO DRANK TOOOO MUCH WATER

Results came back negative diluted, have to do another test

Question/Help

Hey, I will link this on my other post, but basically I had a drug test for a job Monday. Saturday night I did the pectin method. So I got a 32 oz of red gatorade and pour certo in it and shook it up than drank it in 10 minutes than drank half a gallon of water in the next 30 minutes than took half of a b-complex pill right after than drank another half gallon after those first 40 minutes over the next 1:30 hours. Than I pissed a shit ton and tested negative at my at home test saturday night after 4 hours from starting the method. did the same thing sunday and passed again. Did the same thing Monday morning before my test but took the b-complex an hour after usual and my results came back negative but diluted. I’m think I should drink less water hit faster, maybe 32 oz in like 15 minutes and that’s it and than pop a whole b complex and piss a shit ton and still do it 4 hours before. My test is tomorrow at 2 pm, gonna the pectin method tonight once and tomorrow morning right before my test. Lmk what exactly I should do?

The Niacin drug test Myth exposed

 

 

 

 

 

The Niacin drug test Myth

Niacin, also known as vitamin B3, is often suggested as a supplement that may impact drug detoxification, particularly for substances like marijuana. However, it's important to note that there is limited scientific evidence supporting the idea that niacin significantly aids in the detoxification of drugs.

Some individuals believe that niacin can help cleanse the body of drugs by promoting sweating and increasing the metabolism. The idea is that increased metabolism and sweating may help eliminate drug metabolites from the body more rapidly.

The idea that niacin can help pass a drug test likely stems from the fact that it can cause a flushing sensation in the skin. This flushing is caused by the dilation of blood vessels, which can result in a red, itchy rash. Some people believe that this flushing can help rid the body of toxins, including drug metabolites, and thereby help them pass a drug test.

Some Claim it stops the body from releasing fat so taking it allows you to be dirty and keep THC from showing positive  

 Niacin does not directly stop the body from releasing fat. In fact, niacin plays a role in the metabolism of fats, carbohydrates, and proteins by aiding in the conversion of these nutrients into usable energy. It helps break down fats and fatty acids, allowing the body to utilize them for energy production.


However, it's important to note that while niacin supports the metabolic processes involved in fat utilization, it does not directly inhibit or block the body from releasing fat. The release of fat from fat cells is primarily regulated by hormonal signals and energy demands in the body.


There is no scientific evidence to support this belief. Drug metabolites are primarily eliminated from the body through the kidneys and excreted in urine. While niacin may cause a flushing sensation, it does not have any effect on the kidneys or the excretion of drug metabolites.

Moreover, taking high doses of niacin can be dangerous and cause a range of side effects, including liver damage, gastrointestinal problems, and skin rash. In rare cases, high doses of niacin can also lead to a condition called niacin toxicity, which can cause liver failure, jaundice, and even death. 

Niacin can be toxic when used to "beat" drug test

However, it's crucial to be aware of the potential risks and limitations:

1. Limited scientific evidence: There is a lack of robust scientific studies supporting the effectiveness of niacin for drug detoxification. Claims about its benefits often come from anecdotal reports rather than controlled, peer-reviewed research.

2. Side effects: Niacin can cause side effects, including flushing, itching, and nausea, especially in high doses. These side effects may be uncomfortable and can potentially pose health risks, such as liver damage in extreme cases.

3. Incomplete detoxification: Niacin does not target specific drug metabolites directly. While it may increase metabolic processes, it does not guarantee the elimination of all drug residues from the body.

4. Individual variations: The effectiveness of niacin may vary among individuals, and factors like body weight, metabolism, and overall health can influence its impact.

5. False sense of security: Relying solely on niacin for drug detoxification may give a false sense of security. It's essential to consider other factors, such as time since drug use, hydration, and overall health.

In conclusion, niacin is a vitamin that is essential for human health, but it cannot be used to pass a urine drug test. If you need to pass a drug test, the best approach is to abstain from drug use for a sufficient period of time before the test.

 

allow me to post just one example of a niacin believer and what they did using it . 

 

THE NIACIN PROTOCOL 
  taken from various weed forums (  separate quotes from various users )

 "...I took NIACIN 250mg. ( high dose) ...i got 2 gallons of water and gator aid "

"...and i drank about 150 ounces of water a day. "  "...pee at least 3 times before the test"

perfect example of ignorant mindset

"... i am going to take five niacin(100 mg a pilL), with lots of water, and then i am going to take niacin 4 days before the test, (500 mg). and then dilute with alot of water, the day of the test. I am doing this because, i want to know if niacin works for real. if the niacin does not work, then the dilution method will not bring the levels down past the threshold, and ill fail. if the niacin works, then ill pass obviously.

See if it worked then you wouldn't need to use it with tons of fluids which is just dilution this is the same nonsense as certo which is always also used with tons of water .