Showing posts with label validation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label validation. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 1, 2023

What are the risk with "Dilution" for Passing Urine Drug Test

What is a Dilution  method for urine drug test?

A urine drug test is a common way for employees, healthcare providers, and law enforcement agencies to detect the presence of drugs in an individuals system. One method used to try and pass a urine drug test is through dilution.  In regards to drug test, " Dilution " means  - the method to pass a urine drug screen by ingesting  large amounts of liquids to Dilute your bladder and thus dilute your metabolite levels below the cut off point. 
 

How Dilution methods work  

  The liquid need only be water but best if it is also a diuretic. Diuretics help the body get rid of excess fluid, mainly water and sodium.When diuretics stimulate kidneys to flush away sodium the body also flushes away water. This can be done by using herbal items such as dandelion root, horsetail, celery seed, green or black teas or coffee.

 By drinking large amounts of fluids, individuals aim to lower the concentration of drug metabolites in their urine sample, making it more difficult to detect. 

 What makes Dilution Risky ? 

The truth about dilution for drug testing is that it does not detoxify the body but only dilutes the urine with water. Substances like certo,  ( which require large amounts of  WATER)  and expensive detox drinks do not "detoxify" the body either are they diuretics. After consuming these the body's urine is diluted with water for a relatively short window. This creates a clear urine sample which is actually not unnatural as most drink extra prior to test but  promoters of the dilution method will say to just take B vitamins for color and creatine supplements.  However your still diluting it and if does add any color it will be a suspicious fake neon yellow.  Also Color is not a qualifying parameter so why mess with it ?  As for creatine supplements - this is another sweet spot factor in timing of consumption to get it the creatine to convert to creatinine as shown in study  "  The effects of creatine ingestion on urinary creatine concentration: Does supplementation mask heavy dilution? ". Proper use of creatine for the  purpose of suplementing during dilution requires 20 grams to be hydrated in acid or orange juice for 3 days then consumed prior to testing  so that all the cratine is converted to creatinine . " Detox" rinks like q carbo are mostly herbal tea and contain VERY little insignificant amount of creatine considering your still DILUTING IT. 

 

The Trick is that you have to ingest enough fluids to dilute your urine and metabolite levels to below threshold but NOT to point that your creatinine and Specific gravity (urine density), which is what results in a DILUTED result. Dilution results are also effected by sex and weight as seen in this study "Creatinine excretion in consecutive urine samples after controlled ingestion of water" .  Dilution is not permanent, as you urinate you remove water and body returns to previous levels. You have to hit the sweet spot during a short window, without coming up diluted.  

Urine drug screens are performed by measuring amounts of drug metabolites and if they fall over a threshold your deemed POSITIVE and if under your negative.  However Lab drug tests have two parts, including the Specimen validity testing (SVT). SVT is done to check for substitution or a sample that is not characteristic of human urine.

 The Validation screen which is performed prior to or simultaneously with drug screen. Specimen validity testing (SVT) is performed on a urine drug screen specimen to detect substances, adulteration, or dilution ( result from creatinine and specific gravity levels being crashed or under limits).

  The validation screen will also look at non human items such as sanitizing agents used in liquid urine or masking agents (adulteration). Adulteration involves adding chemicals to destroy the drug metabolite. 

 WHEN SELF TESTING  THEY DO NOT LOOK AT SPECIFIC GRAVITY AND COULD GIVE A FALSE NEGATIVE   YOU WANT TO TEST SG TO VERIFY IF OUR TOO DILUTED SO YOU KNOW YOUR WINDOW BASED ON FLUID INTAKE OVER TIME
 Detoxing 
 
All drugs will be gone from urine in 3-5 days except repeated use of THC as it builds up and stores in body fat and liver.  However if you are a repeat user of THC and if your non active heavy body mass person you may not have the 1-2 month needed.
 
Adulteration 

Not even going to bother as this is a major part of the SVT 
 
 

Synthetic Urine Substitution  

This is the most effective method for passing a urine drug test every single time providing your not on observed probation  or (depending on the labs validation screen parameters ) a liquid urine as they all contain a sanitizing agent to keep them shelf stable.  Powdered synthetic urine avoid this risk but requires pre mixing which is not a major issue. I have personally done 2 pre employment and 5 randoms using synthetic and i can say once you do it and get over the jitters you feel bullet proof from then on.
 
 
"But im too scared ill get caught " 
 
 The only concern with synthetic is getting the urine in the cup at temperature.  
Simply practice carrying with water and warming pads to get rid of being nervous.

To conclude

  basically dilution is a 50 50 crap shoot with success based on your use level, amount of liquid consumed and timing it before level return to measurable levels so as to not OVER DILUTE. IF your going to attempt it I suggest you practice by doing said method and  using  a self pre test with some cheap test sticks.   





Thursday, August 11, 2022

Pro Tips for using synthetic urine bottles for drug testing

 Pro Tips for using synthetic urine bottles for drug testing

 

So I want to assure the folks who have apprehensions about carrying urine bottles or concerns about the synthetic urine itself .  Substitution is a much better option as it is nearly impossible to mess up if you follow these tips. 

 

 



The bottle should have a easy to read thermometer label  preferably with a 2 degree offset like the collection cups use for the most accurate temp.  

It is best to use a cap that  you can dispense without removing it which could result in you dropping it or leaving it behind  ( less things to mess with in such a situation ).



 
 
Warmers

Warmer should be the smallest hand warmer with longest activation time, not anything large that will result in excess tempt issues .
An adhesive tab or rubber band to secure warmer to bottle 
 
Powdered Synthetic Urine  
All Liquid Urine contains Biocides and or peroxides  which can pop a validation screen and leave sample flat and odorless .   
Powdered Synthetic    does not need to use biocides ,


CARRY TIPS

To ensure accuracy, it is advisable to practice beforehand in order to determine the temperature after carrying the item for an hour and to confirm that it is securely positioned.
For a warm water-filled bottle, aim for a temperature range of 100 degrees Fahrenheit. To achieve this, you can briefly microwave the bottle few seconds, shake it, and then check the temperature. It is not advisable to use a warmer to heat the sample, as it would take a considerable amount of time.
The warmer is a insulating heat and body flesh regulates the temp pulling excess heat away from bottle .


 It is important to note that if the temperature exceeds the range of the thermometer, it will not be displayed. If bottle feels warms to hand its probably too warm as you can't really feel body temp unless hands are cold.

The sample should be added only when you are ready to conduct the test.


Pick up  extra hand warmers at walmart ( usually have 2 packs in check outs )  carry with water for an hour  and walk around to see how temp holds.  Carry both ways with and without  to observe if temp is issue . May not need them in summer however labs keep waiting groom cold as ice for this reason .
With a dry run you will have confidence and overcome any nervous issues.


For random testing scenarios,Carry the warm water and the vial separately.

Just remove cap from vial (put cap in pocket) then insert the vial into  bottle and secure cap  and shake.  

 

   FAKE IT a custom powdered synthetic urine  that contains nothing not found in human urine that may be indicated in the pre test Validation screen.

 

 







Wednesday, November 3, 2021

Truth about dilution for urine test- ( certo , niacin , detox drinks )

 Whats the truth about Dilution for drug test ?

Do things like certo , Niacin or expensive "Detox Drinks" actually "Detox " you ? 


Methods using products like Certo, or detox drinks are essentially just adding them to a standard dilution agent like water. In the past, before synthetic urine and the internet, people used to rely on goldenseal tea for flushing. Therefore, there is no need to rely on gimmicky drinks that cost $40 and tell you to drink a gallon of water. It's important to recognize that it's the water that is diluting your urine after consuming pectin Certo, niacin, or detox drinks. Similarly, detox drinks instruct you to drink them along with multiple bottles of water, urinate a few times while continuing to drink more water before the test.

Some might wonder about the color of the urine, but in a urine test, the color is not a significant factor, and most people tend to hydrate prior to the test so they can produce urine and leave quickly. Concerning the possibility of over-hydrating and receiving a negative result due to low levels of creatinine and specific gravity (urine density), the drink itself doesn't add anything to counteract that. If you're diluting your urine by hydrating excessively, everything, including drug metabolites, color and creatinine will be diluted.

What actually happens is that you dilute your urine with water, and approximately an hour after you stop drinking excessive amounts of water, your body regulates itself and expels the excess water through urine, returning your levels to their true concentrations. This process doesn't "detox" your body as commonly claimed by those selling drinks or promoting online methods. In simple terms, the reason some people pass a urine test using these drinks and methods is often due to luck.

Alternatively, they might not have had drugs in their system to begin with, which is common for one-time users or occasional THC users who become paranoid and believe the drug will stay in their system indefinitely. However, a single use of THC typically clears from the body within three days, just like most other drugs. Many people who claim to have "passed" using these products are often one-time THC users who panicked without knowing the drug's elimination time frame. It's advisable to use a simple, inexpensive self-test urine stick before resorting to panic buying these drinks.

A laboratory drug test consists of two parts. The first part is the Validity Screen, which checks for levels of creatinine (not creatine) and specific gravity, among other factors that indicate potential sample masking or tampering. If you flush and dilute your urine but the creatinine and specific gravity levels are not significantly altered, then the urine is not considered diluted. Furthermore, if your metabolite levels are below the testing threshold, you will receive a negative result and pass the test.

However, if the specific gravity (urine density) and creatinine levels are too low, it indicates that you have consumed substances to alter your urine, which raises suspicion. Fortunately, they won't fail you outright, and you will have the opportunity to try the test again, although it may appear suspicious.

To summarize, if dilution is your only option, all you need is a $5.00 box of detox tea from any store and some inexpensive self-test sticks. Avoid self-testing when you are excessively hydrated as it may produce false negative results, as urine density validation is not performed. Remember, even a faint line on the test is considered negative for THC.

What works every single time is substituting your urine with synthetic urine. The only concern is ensuring that the synthetic urine is at the correct temperature when you submit it, but this can be easily managed with a proper container. Synthetic urine has been available for a long time, and it is a reliable method. Some may perceive it as riskier, but that is not accurate. Just practice carrying it to ensure you


What does work every single time is Synthetic urine substitution .  Your only concern is getting it in the cup at temp which is easy peezy with a proper container. Synthetic urine has been around a long time and its easy to beat. Most think it riskier but that is false.  Just practice carrying it so you know how to keep it at temp and your golden . 

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Sunday, October 7, 2018

Home Urine test and what the Faint Line means


Negative or Positive Test Result ?

 


ALL THC LINES ARE FAINT

 IF YOU CAN SEE IT THEN ITS NEGATIVE 


 Is your self test Qualitative or  Semi quantitative  ?

A very common question with people who are worried about seeing a faint line on the home reagent dip strip/cup  test is what does this mean ? 
These are strips which serve different purposes, such as a qualitative strip that only determines if the sample is positive or negative, such as most cheap single store bought dip strip test ( can be cup type as well).  
 
These are a basic preliminary qualitative (quality )  test and thus are not SEMI quantitative  (quantity ) test so they will not show a estimate of a quantitative result in which a color reaction is proportional to the concentration of the substance in sample carried out by comparing the test pad to a chart or react to a lighter / darker line like a CARD or CUP that is SEMI quantitative . 

SEMI quantitative self urine test

Each one of these has a different cut off level and in this case lines get lighter due to lower cut off . A
s you see the lowest is very faint but just as negative as the highest dark line typical of coke and opiate .


LONG STORY SHORT PEOPLE 

AS LONG AS YOU SEE TWO LINES ITS NEGATIVE  NO MATTER HOW FAINT

 

FAINT LINE ON PRELIMINARY QUALITATIVE   DOES NOT MEAN BORDERLINE

 

 If a strip also used in cups has multi colored indicators its a SEMI quantitative  (quantity ) typical of a Validation panel in addition to the drug screen . These will show If the creatinine and specific gravity (urine density),Ph ,nitates are in range ( this shows if sample is diluted) , as well as other factors to determine if sample is in human range and even shows no additive are present.

  



 

 

 

 

 

 

SVT   SPECIMEN VALIDITY TEST

Sometimes a lab will use a reagent stick validation before "accepting" the sample to sent to the lab for drug screening . regardless all samples received at lab will perform validity screen.

 a validation test verifies its ph, color, specific gravity ( verifies dilution ) creatnine level ( not creatine) and looks for nitrates or non urine AGENTS


READING THE STICK   OF SELF TEST


When reading the drug test result, you will find a line at the very top of every testing window and that is the control region (C). The test is not considered valid without this line. Result is considered negative when a colored line appears in both the control (C) and test (T) region. If the colored line appears in the control region but not in the test region, the test is considered to be positive. Nevertheless, presence of any faint line in the test region (T) will indicate negative results no matter how light it is.



Presumptive Positive: One colored line is visible in the control (C) zone for that drug. No colored line whatsoever appears in the test (T) zone, indicating a presumptive positive result for the corresponding drug.
Negative: Colored lines are visible in both the control (C) and test (T) zones, indicating that concentration of the drug is below the detection limit of the test or not present. 

 

 VAST MAJORITY OF SELF TEST ARE CHEAP SINGLE STICK REAGENT  

As long as your not diluted  and not using first morning pee you get best reading . If doing multiple during a detox do them same time of day  no heavy or excessive  fluid intake. If you see a faint line then it will most likely be a little darker with a little extra fluid  but your good just don't super dilute as this will render a DILUTE sample for re test .